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	<title>Comments on: Live Long and Prosper</title>
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	<description>Tai Chi and anything I can relate to Tai Chi ... like life</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Crewdson</title>
		<link>http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/2107/live-long-and-prosper/comment-page-1/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>John Crewdson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, but I think I like it.  Yes we do our best to live life to the fullest.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure what you mean here, but I think I like it.  Yes we do our best to live life to the fullest.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/2107/live-long-and-prosper/comment-page-1/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tai chi people may not live any longer but we earn to live in each and every moment. The quality of life is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tai chi people may not live any longer but we earn to live in each and every moment. The quality of life is better.</p>
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		<title>By: John Crewdson</title>
		<link>http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/2107/live-long-and-prosper/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>John Crewdson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joy,

I couldn't have said it better myself.  Coke is good!

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.  Coke is good!</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! I don't have to give up coke!  :)

This was an interesting post and interesting comments. We aren't meant to live forever, and personally, I don't want to. But living a life that is pain-free, or even pain-reduced, is my goal.  Tai Chi has brought a balance to my life that I wouldn't have imagined.  You can have all the physical health in the world but if you're mentally unhealthy, what does it matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! I don&#8217;t have to give up coke!  <img src='http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
This was an interesting post and interesting comments. We aren&#8217;t meant to live forever, and personally, I don&#8217;t want to. But living a life that is pain-free, or even pain-reduced, is my goal.  Tai Chi has brought a balance to my life that I wouldn&#8217;t have imagined.  You can have all the physical health in the world but if you&#8217;re mentally unhealthy, what does it matter?</p>
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		<title>By: John Crewdson</title>
		<link>http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/2107/live-long-and-prosper/comment-page-1/#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>John Crewdson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,

I've never considered time and awareness in the way you described it here.  Great insights.  I'll think I'll even spend some time with those ideas myself.

Thanks,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never considered time and awareness in the way you described it here.  Great insights.  I&#8217;ll think I&#8217;ll even spend some time with those ideas myself.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: John Crewdson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Crewdson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, 

Being a reformed health-nut myself I have a pretty good feel from both sides of the fence.  Now I prefer moderation all things.  All things being defined as those things I like: cigars, beer, some health foods, pizza, steak, soy milk... you know a widely varying list from the "norm" to the "weird".  ;-)

I don't know much about the Greek ideal, but I think I could learn to like the Greeks.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, </p>
<p>Being a reformed health-nut myself I have a pretty good feel from both sides of the fence.  Now I prefer moderation all things.  All things being defined as those things I like: cigars, beer, some health foods, pizza, steak, soy milk&#8230; you know a widely varying list from the &#8220;norm&#8221; to the &#8220;weird&#8221;.  <img src='http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about the Greek ideal, but I think I could learn to like the Greeks.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: John Crewdson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Crewdson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jordan.  I think health is a bit like happiness: we define it for ourselves.  I've also undergone some pretty significant muscular-skeletal changes since taking up tai chi.  I seems I keep making those adjustments too, although the shifts are a bit more subtle now.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jordan.  I think health is a bit like happiness: we define it for ourselves.  I&#8217;ve also undergone some pretty significant muscular-skeletal changes since taking up tai chi.  I seems I keep making those adjustments too, although the shifts are a bit more subtle now.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's assume that you're speaking about someone who practices seriously, on a regular basis. Perhaps he/she will not get more "lifetime" directly from tai chi. You know: &lt;i&gt;per se.&lt;/i&gt; Many variables affect the number of years we live.

But perhaps they will get more "time" in their life? Most practitioners would agree that tai chi improves awareness; in some cases, dramatically. As attention and awareness grows, the sheer tonnage of impressions and sensations increase, are noticed, considered, pondered, registered, utilized ... &lt;i&gt;metabolized.&lt;/i&gt; This causes one's "sense of time-passing" to alter. Nothing goes-by faster than unconscious time, because we're not around to experience it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume that you&#8217;re speaking about someone who practices seriously, on a regular basis. Perhaps he/she will not get more &#8220;lifetime&#8221; directly from tai chi. You know: <i>per se.</i> Many variables affect the number of years we live.</p>
<p>But perhaps they will get more &#8220;time&#8221; in their life? Most practitioners would agree that tai chi improves awareness; in some cases, dramatically. As attention and awareness grows, the sheer tonnage of impressions and sensations increase, are noticed, considered, pondered, registered, utilized &#8230; <i>metabolized.</i> This causes one&#8217;s &#8220;sense of time-passing&#8221; to alter. Nothing goes-by faster than unconscious time, because we&#8217;re not around to experience it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Great post.  I think this cuts right to the heart of the distinction between "the good life" as defined by health nuts, who often resemble the medieval religious attitude in their outlook; versus "the good life" as defined by the Greek ideal of eudaimonia.  Unfortunately the health nuts have been setting the parameters of the debate for a long time.  They want to dourly define the good life as a list of things you shouldn't do, as opposed to the Greek ideal, which is a list of things you should embrace.

There's nothing contradictory about doing taiji and smoking, if you genuinely get pleasure out of both and are fully aware of the risks.  They can both be part of a fulfilled, positive, virtuous, life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Great post.  I think this cuts right to the heart of the distinction between &#8220;the good life&#8221; as defined by health nuts, who often resemble the medieval religious attitude in their outlook; versus &#8220;the good life&#8221; as defined by the Greek ideal of eudaimonia.  Unfortunately the health nuts have been setting the parameters of the debate for a long time.  They want to dourly define the good life as a list of things you shouldn&#8217;t do, as opposed to the Greek ideal, which is a list of things you should embrace.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing contradictory about doing taiji and smoking, if you genuinely get pleasure out of both and are fully aware of the risks.  They can both be part of a fulfilled, positive, virtuous, life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan_Keats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan_Keats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
     Great post, health is so subjective. Since visiting China, my eyes have been opened to their ideas of health and how much of their beliefs are tied into superstition. 

Nearly everyone there smokes, and many believe that the smoke is killing demons in their lungs. The Flem that follows a few years of smoking butts is the dead demons escaping from their lungs. 

I guess health means what health means to you, but I have undergone serious changes/ adjustments to my skeletal system since doing practical method Chen style Taiji.

All the best &#38; happy training,

Jordan

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jordan_Keats’s last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.netvibes.com/dynamo/activities/65342147" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jordan Keats updated his status : Is making the universe of Chen Style Practical Method Tai Chi more manageable.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
     Great post, health is so subjective. Since visiting China, my eyes have been opened to their ideas of health and how much of their beliefs are tied into superstition. </p>
<p>Nearly everyone there smokes, and many believe that the smoke is killing demons in their lungs. The Flem that follows a few years of smoking butts is the dead demons escaping from their lungs. </p>
<p>I guess health means what health means to you, but I have undergone serious changes/ adjustments to my skeletal system since doing practical method Chen style Taiji.</p>
<p>All the best &amp; happy training,</p>
<p>Jordan</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jordan_Keats’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.netvibes.com/dynamo/activities/65342147">Jordan Keats updated his status : Is making the universe of Chen Style Practical Method Tai Chi more manageable.</a></em></abbr></p>
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